Basketball-reference.com top 60 ELO Rating

This is where fans can vote on the best players. There are obviously some good picks here and some bad picks here, but the list is interesting in and of itself, because it is so hard to figure out exactly where guys should be slotted exactly 1-50 or even 1-150.

I will try to keep the comments to a minimum.


1 Michael Jordan*
2 Magic Johnson*
3 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*
4 Larry Bird*
5 Hakeem Olajuwon* -- really!?!? better player than Wilt or Russell???
6 Bill Russell*
7 Oscar Robertson*
8 Wilt Chamberlain*
9 Shaquille O'Neal
10 Tim Duncan
11.Karl Malone*
12 Jerry West*
13 David Robinson*
14 Charles Barkley*
15 John Stockton*
16 Julius Erving*
17 Elgin Baylor*
18 Kevin Garnett
19 Moses Malone*
20 Patrick Ewing*

21 LeBron James -- win in the finals and he would be top 10
22 Scottie Pippen* -- way too high, he was a better player than Kobe? Wade?
23 John Havlicek*
24 Steve Nash
25 Bob Pettit* -- look at his stats and 1st team all-NBAs, desrves to be top 12.
26 Dominique Wilkins*
27 Jason Kidd
28 Clyde Drexler*
29 Elvin Hayes*
30 Dirk Nowitzki
31 Kobe Bryant
32 Dwyane Wade
33 Chris Paul
34 Allen Iverson
35 Isiah Thomas*
36 Kevin McHale*
37 Walt Frazier*
38 Rick Barry*
39 Ray Allen
40 Paul Pierce



41 Bob Cousy*
42 Pete Maravich*
43 Dwight Howard
44 George Gervin*
45 Alex English*
46 Gary Payton
47 George Mikan* -- um, hmmm, he was a 5 time champion and the clear star of that team; they changed like 7 rules because of him- worse than Pete and Gervin?

48 Willis Reed*
49 Walt Bellamy*
50 Bob McAdoo*
51 Adrian Dantley*
52 Robert Parish*
53 Dave Cowens*
54 Grant Hill
55 Chris Webber
56 Reggie Miller
57 Tiny Archibald*
58 Jerry Lucas*
59 Artis Gilmore* -- HOF inductee 2011
60 Dennis Rodman* -- HOF inductee 2011


Other notables

61 Bob Lanier*

68 Vince Carter
79 Shawn Marion
80 Pau Gasol

81 Bill Walton*
82 Paul Arizin* old-timers always get screwed in fan votes
98 Dan Issel* -- I am extremely skeptical of the claim that Issel is a worse player than Gilmore
100 Spencer Haywood -- really!?!??
105 Manu Ginobili no Spencer Haywood
106 Jermaine O'Neal On what basis?
107 Rajon Rondo
111 Chris Bosh
112 Sam Jones* no Chris Bosh
138 Zach Randolph
139 Rasheed Wallace
148 Stephon Marbury

150 Neil Johnston* has like the 6th best PER for a career of any player -- but he is no Stephon Marbury