Two players in the history of the NBA have 100 Defensive Win Shares -- Bill Russell and Tim Duncan.
Tim Duncan has a career Defensive Rating of 95.6, 3rd best all-time. Of active players, Kevin Garnett is next best at 19th best all-time and has a defensive rating of over 99 points per 100 possessions. Tim Duncan has a better career Defensive Rating than the other two greatest defensive centers I ever saw play in person -- David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon. David's rating is close, Hakeem's is not.
Tim Duncan, with a Spurs run this year, will break Michael Jordan's all-time Win Shares record for the playoffs. Most ever. No one has more. Name any name, they will be behind Duncan for playoff productivity.
In the next game he plays, Duncan will likely become the 6th player in NBA history to register 200 career Win Shares. He has 5 titles. He is 2X MVP, 10X first-team all-NBA, 3X Finals MVP. He has 12 seasons with over 10 Win Shares (5th best all-time). He holds the NBA record for most Win Shares in a playoff season (5.9 in the 2002-03 playoffs).
Tim Duncan is arguably the greatest player in the history of the game. His combination of offensive prowess, defensive prowess and team success stands up to virtually anyone. He is 8X first-team all-defense. He is 14X first or second team all-defense (the most of all-time by 2 seasons). He has those stats despite the fact that he was also for several years the #1 offensive option on his team. He had a year where his defensive rating was 89 (lower is better).
So why does Tim Duncan rank only 5th on my list? Well, it is kinda hard to explain, but let me tell you and see if you buy my explanation (for you Duncan fans out there - there can be no question that the guy is underrated on the all-time list, but I don't think you will see many guys ranking him top 5, so cut me some slack).
Tim Duncan's career has been marked by tremendous consistency, but not consistency during the regular season at a historically dominant level. Example - while he ranks very high in the "most 10 Win Share seasons" category - if you move the sort way up to 15 Win Share seasons, you see: http://bkref.com/tiny/R9YUK
Duncan has as many 15 Win Share seasons (2) as Bob McAdoo and Alex Groza. Bird has 4; Magic has 4; David Robinson 5; Oscar 6; Karl Malone 9. A good argument could be made that the Spurs do not need Duncan to play that well or that much in order to win. But then if you go to WS/48, which takes into account that a guy may not play that much, you get this: http://bkref.com/tiny/tYj6m
Duncan has 5 really great WS/48 seasons, tied for 10th. Again, far worse than David Robinson, far worse than Karl Malone. Shaq, always maligned as a regular season slacker, has 7 such seasons. Duncan's "per game" career regular season statistics look very pedestrian for someone claiming all-time top 5 great status -- 19.5/11/3 and 2.9 steals plus blocks.
But you cannot deny the fact that he went 2-1-1-2 in MVP balloting over 4 regular seasons, and that he may soon pass Jordan in career Playoff Win Shares and that he has anchored 5 NBA title teams (which would have been 6 but for his coach's inexplicable decision not to have him in during the end of Game 6 against the Heat) or that his Defensive Win Shares are better than anyone but Bill Russell. http://bkref.com/tiny/uiEHu
or that he seemingly does not age and, in the playoffs, where it counts, he continues to dominate while playing on championship teams.
I rank Tim Duncan the #5 player in the history of the game.
Thursday, April 02, 2015
6th Best NBA Player of All-Time -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
So, we are down to our Final 6. Magic comes in at #6, behind, in alphabetical order, Abdul-Jabbar, Chamberlain, Duncan, James and Jordan.
Magic Johnson -- took his team to the Finals in 1980, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, and 91. Remarkable. Now, the next best teams in the league during those years were generally in the East (Boston, Philly, Milwaukee), but may never see another run of 9 finals in 12 years (Moses Malone's Houston team, the Twin Towers Rockets team and the Drexler-led Trailblazers were the three teams to appear other than the Lakers.)
Now, some like to say that Magic was the greatest player of all-time, even greater than Jordan. He has 3 MVPs. 9X first-team all-NBA, 3X Finals MVP. His career "MVP shares" ( a measure of how many MVP votes you get, even if you don't win) is 5th all-time, behind Jordan, Kareem, LeBron and Bird.
If you start tightening down the advanced stats requirements so that you eliminate most players, you see that Magic ranks high on advance stats as well -- of guys who have over 150 Win Shares and .2 WS/48 and a 20 PER,
http://bkref.com/tiny/vITIX
Magic ranks 14th in Win Shares, 6th in WS/48, and 9th in PER on the list.
In the playoffs, if you tighten down the advance stats requirements so that you get the best 10 playoff performers of all-time statistically,
http://bkref.com/tiny/LAgGo, you get Magic at 5th in Win Shares, 3rd in WS/48, and 8th in PER on this all-time playoff greats list.
No question - one of the greatest of all-time. So why is he behind 5 guys? Well:
1) He never was a good defender. Look for an All-defense award. You won't find any. Because he was 6'9" tall, he played the worst offensive player the other team had who wasn't the center. Despite playing on many great teams, his defensive rating was never low. The Lakers had Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper. Magic never had to lock down anyone good, and it is doubtful that he ever could have done so.
2) He didn't play that long. It wasn't his fault. He got HIV and the entire world freaked out. But you do lose a couple points when you stop playing early. Also, not to be cruel, but you would think that a man struck down in his prime with no "bad" seasons weighing him down due to age would be ranked higher in PER and WS/48 (stats that do not require longevity). He isn't top 1 or top 2. Jordan had two retirements and the ill advised two years with the Wizards. His stats are still far better, even on per minute stats.
3) I have to mark him down for playing with Kareem. Sorry, but if you watch an NBATV game with the Lakers 1979-80 through 1983-84, they go to Kareem virtually every time down the floor. Magic's career PPG is under 20. He was far more impressive 1984-85 and after, but you have to wonder whether he could have won all of those titles without Kareem.
One could argue that Magic's lack of longevity and poor defense and the fact that he always played with Hall of Famers (Kareem, Worthy, they had Bob McAdoo off the bench for goodness sake) should rank him down closer to Bird (whom I have at #13). But that ignores his ridiculous playoff success and the fact that Magic hated to lose and rarely did he ever lose when he was playing at full speed and ability.
I think #6 is a fair compromise.
Magic Johnson -- took his team to the Finals in 1980, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, and 91. Remarkable. Now, the next best teams in the league during those years were generally in the East (Boston, Philly, Milwaukee), but may never see another run of 9 finals in 12 years (Moses Malone's Houston team, the Twin Towers Rockets team and the Drexler-led Trailblazers were the three teams to appear other than the Lakers.)
Now, some like to say that Magic was the greatest player of all-time, even greater than Jordan. He has 3 MVPs. 9X first-team all-NBA, 3X Finals MVP. His career "MVP shares" ( a measure of how many MVP votes you get, even if you don't win) is 5th all-time, behind Jordan, Kareem, LeBron and Bird.
If you start tightening down the advanced stats requirements so that you eliminate most players, you see that Magic ranks high on advance stats as well -- of guys who have over 150 Win Shares and .2 WS/48 and a 20 PER,
http://bkref.com/tiny/vITIX
Magic ranks 14th in Win Shares, 6th in WS/48, and 9th in PER on the list.
In the playoffs, if you tighten down the advance stats requirements so that you get the best 10 playoff performers of all-time statistically,
http://bkref.com/tiny/LAgGo, you get Magic at 5th in Win Shares, 3rd in WS/48, and 8th in PER on this all-time playoff greats list.
No question - one of the greatest of all-time. So why is he behind 5 guys? Well:
1) He never was a good defender. Look for an All-defense award. You won't find any. Because he was 6'9" tall, he played the worst offensive player the other team had who wasn't the center. Despite playing on many great teams, his defensive rating was never low. The Lakers had Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott, Michael Cooper. Magic never had to lock down anyone good, and it is doubtful that he ever could have done so.
2) He didn't play that long. It wasn't his fault. He got HIV and the entire world freaked out. But you do lose a couple points when you stop playing early. Also, not to be cruel, but you would think that a man struck down in his prime with no "bad" seasons weighing him down due to age would be ranked higher in PER and WS/48 (stats that do not require longevity). He isn't top 1 or top 2. Jordan had two retirements and the ill advised two years with the Wizards. His stats are still far better, even on per minute stats.
3) I have to mark him down for playing with Kareem. Sorry, but if you watch an NBATV game with the Lakers 1979-80 through 1983-84, they go to Kareem virtually every time down the floor. Magic's career PPG is under 20. He was far more impressive 1984-85 and after, but you have to wonder whether he could have won all of those titles without Kareem.
One could argue that Magic's lack of longevity and poor defense and the fact that he always played with Hall of Famers (Kareem, Worthy, they had Bob McAdoo off the bench for goodness sake) should rank him down closer to Bird (whom I have at #13). But that ignores his ridiculous playoff success and the fact that Magic hated to lose and rarely did he ever lose when he was playing at full speed and ability.
I think #6 is a fair compromise.
Wednesday, April 01, 2015
Monday, March 30, 2015
Shooting In Houston's Dome -- Who TF Made This Set-Up?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/30/sports/ncaabasketball/vast-stadium-falls-silent-except-for-clangs.html?_r=0
I am unaware of any other Dome setup where the court is set in the very center of the dome and the stands are angled at a ridiculously flat angle. If someone stands up in front of you 4 rows ahead, I really doubt you can see anything as a fan.
But the bigger problem in Houston is the shooting background. On TV, I saw an angle from behind Tyus Jones in the first half against Gonzaga where Tyus was shooting (and making) a free throw. He was shooting into a black abyss that resembled outer space, except he also had to shoot over the heads of a group of fans who seem to be presenting a play or musical of some sort, since they were very brightly illuminated for whatever reason.
At a basketball stadium, you can look through the glass backboard and into the crowd when you are shooting. The game is played in what appears to be daylight, and, if anything, the lights on the crowd are LESS bright than those on the court. Houston's stadium, like Del Griffith's anecdotes, is a miracle, it has none has none of that. You shoot out of the light and over the heads of someone presenting a play and then into the deepest darkest abyss you have ever seen.
I would imagine that someone shooting a corner 3 sees the rim and then acres of black space. Perhaps the best strategy for a player would be to find a poorly lit outdoor court 100-150 miles from Houston on a cloudy night and shoot into the darkness. Of course, that would not provide the additional wild card of the bizarre crowd angle and lighting, but maybe you could park 300 cars facing one another with their lights on about 50 yards from the court?
I am sure Houston has warm weather and a lot of millionaire boosters and the museums/strip bars that fans want, but my lord, can't someone advise them as to how to set up a basketball arena?
I am unaware of any other Dome setup where the court is set in the very center of the dome and the stands are angled at a ridiculously flat angle. If someone stands up in front of you 4 rows ahead, I really doubt you can see anything as a fan.
But the bigger problem in Houston is the shooting background. On TV, I saw an angle from behind Tyus Jones in the first half against Gonzaga where Tyus was shooting (and making) a free throw. He was shooting into a black abyss that resembled outer space, except he also had to shoot over the heads of a group of fans who seem to be presenting a play or musical of some sort, since they were very brightly illuminated for whatever reason.
At a basketball stadium, you can look through the glass backboard and into the crowd when you are shooting. The game is played in what appears to be daylight, and, if anything, the lights on the crowd are LESS bright than those on the court. Houston's stadium, like Del Griffith's anecdotes, is a miracle, it has none has none of that. You shoot out of the light and over the heads of someone presenting a play and then into the deepest darkest abyss you have ever seen.
I would imagine that someone shooting a corner 3 sees the rim and then acres of black space. Perhaps the best strategy for a player would be to find a poorly lit outdoor court 100-150 miles from Houston on a cloudy night and shoot into the darkness. Of course, that would not provide the additional wild card of the bizarre crowd angle and lighting, but maybe you could park 300 cars facing one another with their lights on about 50 yards from the court?
I am sure Houston has warm weather and a lot of millionaire boosters and the museums/strip bars that fans want, but my lord, can't someone advise them as to how to set up a basketball arena?
Friday, March 27, 2015
Best 12, Next 12, Trash 12 -- Part IV -- Guys 12-7."
Who are the best 12 NBA players of all time, based upon the Hoops Maven's review of the stats, historical record, personal observations and personal preferences? Well, we already know that in alphabetical order they are:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
Wilt Chamberlain,
Tim Duncan,
LeBron James
Magic Johnson,
Michael Jordan,
Karl Malone,
George Mikan,
Shaquille O'Neal,
Oscar Robertson,
Bill Russell, and
Jerry West
Interestingly, in 1980, the NBA announced its 35th Anniversary Team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_35th_Anniversary_Team This is the most exclusive team ever announced, as it includes only 11 players!!
6 of those players still made my top 12 (Kareem, Wilt, Mikan, Oscar, Russell, West). For guys who starred mainly between 1981 and 2003, I have added 4 guys (Magic, Michael, Karl, Shaq) and for guys who are still current players I have Duncan and LeBron.
So let's get to work;:
12. Oscar Robertson -- a one-time MVP who only won a title while on his last legs with Milwaukee (riding Kareem to the title - watch those game films, you will wonder how Oscar was ever considered such a great player). His teams were not always good, and of the top 12 he had some of the least playoff success (Oscar's college team also never won the title while he was there, but they won the year after he left!). So why is he on the top 12 versus, say, Bird. Oscar was regarded by his peers as a top 5 player. 9X first-team all-NBA, 9X top 5 in MVP balloting, won an MVP in a league that featured both Wilt AND Russell AND Bob Petit. I also give some credit for the fact that people who saw Magic and Oscar play routinely stated that Oscar was, by far, the better all-around player. Now, some of that is old guys being old guys, but if you look at Oscar's career Win Shares overall and per season, there is only one guy who is regularly superior -- Michael Jordan. And it is hard to dismiss a 30-10-10 season. It just is.
11. Jerry West -- never won an MVP, so there is an argument that he doesn't belong on this top 12 list with the other guys. But let me defend my selection -- he was top 2 in the MVP balloting 4 years and top 6 nine times. First-team all-NBA 9 times. He was the Finals MVP in a year that his team LOST!! Does own a title in 1972 when he was still first-team all-NBA. If you review his WS/48 (top 10) and then review his playoff stats (only Jordan and Magic have better stats for guards in the history of the game), you have to conclude that he is top 12.
10. George Mikan -- it pains me to put him so low, especially since it appears that I am favoring the guys I have actually watched play and trashing all of the older guys at the bottom. But.....Mikan only played 7 years. He was so ridiculously dominant during those years that he won 5 titles and put up numbers and advanced numbers that are just silly they are so good. His career playoff PER is 28.5!!!!!!!!!! And, he changed the game. He was so good at basketball that they made the lane wider so he wouldn't score so much. Teams held the ball against his team, leading to a cry for more action and the 24 second clock. Goaltending used to be legal, but, again, Mikan was so good in college that they changed that rule. I cannot take him out of the top 12, but his short career and the fact that he had only 3 super great seasons will leave him stuck at 10.
9. Shaquille O'Neal -- From 1992 through 2004, he was virtually unguardable when healthy. The 3 time Finals MVP during a three-peat (ala Jordan). 14 times all-NBA (8X first-team), which, for a center competing with Hakeem and David Robinson all those years, means he was damned good. One wonders where Shaq would come in on the list if he cared seriously about getting in shape for the regular season. But, that said, part of greatness is picking up your game when the playoffs come around. How great was Shaq in the playoffs? BANG! Even when he was sometimes fat and sometimes hurt, he would draw doubles and triples in the post. Took Orlando to the Finals, took the Lakers to the Finals, was a good starter when Miami won the Finals. I believe that he is a victim of his own potential. When a guy is 14X all-NBA and an MVP and has 4 titles and owns 3 finals MVPs, and he basically cannot be stopped on the offensive end for 13 years, he is a top 10 player in my book.
8. Bill Russell -- I know, he won all of those titles, and he was way ahead of his time as a defensive player (watch old NBA footage - he is the only guy with any concept of the word "help" on defense. Everyone else stays glued to their guy as if they were subject to removal from the league if they strayed an arm's length away). He always won -- San Francisco won two titles, the Celts won almost every year. Yet I just cannot get over his extremely mediocre offensive stats. He shot 44% from the field and 56% from the line. His career PER is under 20. He did not reach 30 Career Offensive Win Shares (he had an NBA record 133 Defensive Win Shares). His playoff numbers are not any better.
I just have to conclude that a top 5 player needs to contribute significantly on both ends of the floor. Sorry, Bill.
7. Karl Malone -- statistically, Karl Malone has an argument to be a top 4 player. Who contributed more, as a star, to his team during the regular season? Only Wilt and Jordan, if you believe this stat. The guy was truly great for a LONG LONG LONG time. He was MVP of the league twice. 11X First-team all-NBA!! 11X!! He is 3rd for total Win Shares, 2nd (behind only Jordan) for Value Over Replacement Player. Despite playing a ridiculous number of years, he STILL is top 20 all-time in WS/48 (a stat that will get worse as you get older -- ask LeBron). Statistically, Malone is arguably a top 4 player. The fly in the ointment, of course, is his playoff performance. It is poor. Everything plummets. There is not one year that you can point to and say, "That is the year he showed he was a top 5 all-time player." What else can you say? I mean, "if you are so great, why can't you win a title and why do you get eliminated early A LOT!?!?" That said, he did reach the Finals twice, and he WAS the best guy on those teams. So you cannot say he was McGrady-esque or Garnett-ish. I will put him at #7 and let everyone take shots at me, both pro and con
Next up -- guys 6-1.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
Wilt Chamberlain,
Tim Duncan,
LeBron James
Magic Johnson,
Michael Jordan,
Karl Malone,
George Mikan,
Shaquille O'Neal,
Oscar Robertson,
Bill Russell, and
Jerry West
Interestingly, in 1980, the NBA announced its 35th Anniversary Team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_35th_Anniversary_Team This is the most exclusive team ever announced, as it includes only 11 players!!
6 of those players still made my top 12 (Kareem, Wilt, Mikan, Oscar, Russell, West). For guys who starred mainly between 1981 and 2003, I have added 4 guys (Magic, Michael, Karl, Shaq) and for guys who are still current players I have Duncan and LeBron.
So let's get to work;:
12. Oscar Robertson -- a one-time MVP who only won a title while on his last legs with Milwaukee (riding Kareem to the title - watch those game films, you will wonder how Oscar was ever considered such a great player). His teams were not always good, and of the top 12 he had some of the least playoff success (Oscar's college team also never won the title while he was there, but they won the year after he left!). So why is he on the top 12 versus, say, Bird. Oscar was regarded by his peers as a top 5 player. 9X first-team all-NBA, 9X top 5 in MVP balloting, won an MVP in a league that featured both Wilt AND Russell AND Bob Petit. I also give some credit for the fact that people who saw Magic and Oscar play routinely stated that Oscar was, by far, the better all-around player. Now, some of that is old guys being old guys, but if you look at Oscar's career Win Shares overall and per season, there is only one guy who is regularly superior -- Michael Jordan. And it is hard to dismiss a 30-10-10 season. It just is.
11. Jerry West -- never won an MVP, so there is an argument that he doesn't belong on this top 12 list with the other guys. But let me defend my selection -- he was top 2 in the MVP balloting 4 years and top 6 nine times. First-team all-NBA 9 times. He was the Finals MVP in a year that his team LOST!! Does own a title in 1972 when he was still first-team all-NBA. If you review his WS/48 (top 10) and then review his playoff stats (only Jordan and Magic have better stats for guards in the history of the game), you have to conclude that he is top 12.
10. George Mikan -- it pains me to put him so low, especially since it appears that I am favoring the guys I have actually watched play and trashing all of the older guys at the bottom. But.....Mikan only played 7 years. He was so ridiculously dominant during those years that he won 5 titles and put up numbers and advanced numbers that are just silly they are so good. His career playoff PER is 28.5!!!!!!!!!! And, he changed the game. He was so good at basketball that they made the lane wider so he wouldn't score so much. Teams held the ball against his team, leading to a cry for more action and the 24 second clock. Goaltending used to be legal, but, again, Mikan was so good in college that they changed that rule. I cannot take him out of the top 12, but his short career and the fact that he had only 3 super great seasons will leave him stuck at 10.
9. Shaquille O'Neal -- From 1992 through 2004, he was virtually unguardable when healthy. The 3 time Finals MVP during a three-peat (ala Jordan). 14 times all-NBA (8X first-team), which, for a center competing with Hakeem and David Robinson all those years, means he was damned good. One wonders where Shaq would come in on the list if he cared seriously about getting in shape for the regular season. But, that said, part of greatness is picking up your game when the playoffs come around. How great was Shaq in the playoffs? BANG! Even when he was sometimes fat and sometimes hurt, he would draw doubles and triples in the post. Took Orlando to the Finals, took the Lakers to the Finals, was a good starter when Miami won the Finals. I believe that he is a victim of his own potential. When a guy is 14X all-NBA and an MVP and has 4 titles and owns 3 finals MVPs, and he basically cannot be stopped on the offensive end for 13 years, he is a top 10 player in my book.
8. Bill Russell -- I know, he won all of those titles, and he was way ahead of his time as a defensive player (watch old NBA footage - he is the only guy with any concept of the word "help" on defense. Everyone else stays glued to their guy as if they were subject to removal from the league if they strayed an arm's length away). He always won -- San Francisco won two titles, the Celts won almost every year. Yet I just cannot get over his extremely mediocre offensive stats. He shot 44% from the field and 56% from the line. His career PER is under 20. He did not reach 30 Career Offensive Win Shares (he had an NBA record 133 Defensive Win Shares). His playoff numbers are not any better.
I just have to conclude that a top 5 player needs to contribute significantly on both ends of the floor. Sorry, Bill.
7. Karl Malone -- statistically, Karl Malone has an argument to be a top 4 player. Who contributed more, as a star, to his team during the regular season? Only Wilt and Jordan, if you believe this stat. The guy was truly great for a LONG LONG LONG time. He was MVP of the league twice. 11X First-team all-NBA!! 11X!! He is 3rd for total Win Shares, 2nd (behind only Jordan) for Value Over Replacement Player. Despite playing a ridiculous number of years, he STILL is top 20 all-time in WS/48 (a stat that will get worse as you get older -- ask LeBron). Statistically, Malone is arguably a top 4 player. The fly in the ointment, of course, is his playoff performance. It is poor. Everything plummets. There is not one year that you can point to and say, "That is the year he showed he was a top 5 all-time player." What else can you say? I mean, "if you are so great, why can't you win a title and why do you get eliminated early A LOT!?!?" That said, he did reach the Finals twice, and he WAS the best guy on those teams. So you cannot say he was McGrady-esque or Garnett-ish. I will put him at #7 and let everyone take shots at me, both pro and con
Next up -- guys 6-1.
Thursday, March 26, 2015
Best 12, Next 12, Trash 12 (Part III)
So, we started with this list.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ray Allen, Charles Barkley
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ray Allen, Charles Barkley
Rick Barry, Elgin Baylor, Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Drexler
Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing, Kevin Garnett, John Havlicek
LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan
Karl Malone, Moses Malone, George Mikan
Reggie Miller, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowtizki
Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Chris Paul
Gary Payton. Bob Petit, Scottie Pippen
Oscar Robertson, David Robinson, Bill Russell
John Stockton, Dwayne Wade. Jerry West.
After "Trashing 12," in Part II, we are down to these 24 all-time NBA greats:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Charles Barkley, Elgin Baylor, Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Tim Duncan, Julius Erving
Kevin Garnett, LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan
Karl Malone, Moses Malone, George Mikan, Dirk Nowtizki
Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Bob Petit, Oscar Robertson,
David Robinson, Bill Russell, John Stockton, Jerry West.
So now I have to relegate 12 guys to the "Next 12" and then (in Part IV) I will list and rank the Best 12. Let's get started.
What makes someone not just merely "great" but one of the true elite -- the greatest players of all-time? It is difficult to identify exactly what the characteristics are. Here are ten -- 1) was regarded at his time as truly great; evidence of this would be all-NBA selections and top 5 MVP voting; 2) was regarded as the best player in the game at least once, and, hopefully, on multiple occasions, as would be generally reflected by MVP awards; 3) was dominant in some aspect of the game - teams needed to adjust their games to stop him and generally did not succeed; 4) was physically superior to other players; 5) was well ahead of his time as a player/there simply were not players that did what he did at the time he did them (and possibly there still aren't today); 6) played a sufficient amount of time that his body of work can be considered not just a blip; 7) was consistently excellent for a long time (this can be determined most easily by advance stats); 8) his playoff performance did not generally decline substantially (same); 9) led his team far into the playoffs on multiple occasions; 10) won multiple titles.
I am sure there are more, but as you go through the list of great players, these all appear to be common traits. So, ranking 24-13, I go with the following:
24. John Stockton - 1, 6, 7, 8, 9. Lacks in the remaining categories. Great player, played at a high level forever. I have reviewed the issue of "who was better, Stockton or Malone" many times and many ways. And I always eventually reach the conclusion that Malone was the better player, and by a lot.
23. Dirk Nowitzki -- 1, 2, 3 (shooting), 5, 6, 7, 8. His teams did not always advance as far in the playoffs as you would imagine, and he was not physically superior to other players such that he was regarded as truly unstoppable, Like Stockton, he has been excellent for a long time, but he also has an MVP and a title. But only 4X first-team all-NBA.
22. Kevin Garnett -- 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (maybe), 8. Hurt by the fact that he had so many playoff failures in his prime, and had only 1 title. Does have an MVP. The best "out on the floor" defending big man ever. Tremendous passer. Played at 100% effort more than almost all great players.
21. Charles Barkley - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (kinda), 8. The Round Mound was a dominant scorer and rebounder. Great out on the open court for a man whose weight ranged from 240 to 310. 1 MVP, reached one final, and his Philly teams didn't always go far in the playoffs.
20. Elgin Baylor -- 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (kinda), 8, 9. Baylor is a difficult call. Widely regarded during his time as a top 5 player (10X first-team all-NBA), people talk about him as if he was basically an unstoppable force of nature. His scoring feats are legendary and he could pull down 15-20 rebounds a night. Yet he has 0 MVPs and 0 titles that he contributed to. 20 seems about right.
19. Julius Erving -- 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (kinda), 9, 10 (if you count ABA). The rating of the good Doctor J. all depends upon how much credit you give him for his ABA stats and titles. His NBA stats alone are sufficient to probably get him into the tail end of the top 24, but if you completely discount his ABA stats I have him too high and if you give 100% credit to his ABA stats, he is too low.
18. Kobe -- 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10. Kobe was not as physically dominant as some other players, his playoff stats are not as good as his regular season stats, he won 3 titles with Shaq as the main guy, and his Lakers teams could collapse at times in the playoffs. Only 1 MVP. Look, I despise the guy, and I despise putting him this high, but he does have 5 titles, played forever and was given an MVP despite my protestations, so.....yuck, #18 overall.
17. Bob Petit -- everything but maybe not 7. 10X first-team all-NBA. 1 MVP, 1 title (recall that only Petit's Hawks and Wilt's Philly squad took a title off Russell's Celtics). Regularly flirted with 20-20 seasons. Simply excelled as a player. We cannot lose him to the trash heap of history, so he needs to be ranked very high.
16. Moses Malone -- everything except 10 and maybe not number 7. The mileage and bumps and bruising and fractured eye sockets eventually caught up to Moses, and his truly great years are basically 1977-83. Played a lot longer, but it was that stretch where he and his teams flourished. Led an awful Houston team to the finals. Embarrassed Kareem in the 1983 Finals, which is something I don't think any other player in NBA history could say - that he whipped Kareem for four straight important games.
15. Hakeem Olajuwon -- once we get to 15, what we need to start doing is picking at weaknesses, however slight, since the strengths are so plainly obvious (one of the best defenders of all-time, two titles, has an MVP). People seem to forget that by 1989 the Rockets were unhappy with Hakeem and were shopping him. Had Jordan never retired or had John Starks been able to make a shot in 1994 Finals, Hakeem might have never received his due as a player. But Hakeem's teams did not always win, his playoff performances were not always great, and since we need to really split hairs here in the top 15, I have to leave him at 15.
14. David Robinson -- look, this is personal preference, I concede, but David played on teams that were a LOT worse than Hakeem's teams and before Duncan got there David was basically playing by himself (Sean Elliott anyone? Willie Anderson?), coached by..........you tell me? David's WS/48 for his career is the same as Jordan's. David's teams against good teams were regularly -10 per game without him on the court. In my opinion, a truly great player who has been shorted by history. He will not be shorted here - #14.
13. Larry Bird -- Well, this ranking should cause some outrage. He was 9X First-Team all-NBA and 3X MVP. From 1980-1987 he was one of the best 4 players in the league every year. Won 3 titles and also went to the Finals and lost in 1985 and 1987. But, again, we are top 15 now, so we are tearing people down and not building them up. His playoff stats are far worse than his regular season stats. Of the three titles the Celts won, two were against flukish Houston clubs. If you value longevity and greatness over a lengthy period of time, Bird simply does not match up. For all-time Win Shares, Bird is ranked 23rd. For all guys with over .200 WS/48 and 100 Win Shares, his .203 WS/48 ranks last.
Bird's 24.8 Playoff WS ranks him 11th in career playoff WS, and of guys with at least 15 playoff WS, Bird's .179 WS/48 ranks him 19th, just behind Kevin McHale. So, despite the fact that he played on great Celtic teams, his overall performance and longevity of performance in the playoffs simply was not that great.
There are just too many holes in Bird's relatively short NBA resume (he started at age 23 and once his back went, so did he, and so did the Celtics) to crack the top 12. I realize other may disagree, but then they can write their own lengthy analysis.
The Best 12 in alphabetical order:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Tim Duncan, LeBron James
Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, George Mikan,
Shaquille O'Neal, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Jerry West
The Best 12 in alphabetical order:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Tim Duncan, LeBron James
Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, George Mikan,
Shaquille O'Neal, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, Jerry West
Wednesday, March 25, 2015
Best 12, Next 12, Trash 12 (Part 2) -- "The Trash Heap"
I previously listed 36 all-time NBA greats: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ray Allen, Charles Barkley
Rick Barry, Elgin Baylor, Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Drexler
Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing, Kevin Garnett, John Havlicek
LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan
Karl Malone, Moses Malone, George Mikan
Reggie Miller, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowtizki
Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Chris Paul
Gary Payton. Bob Petit, Scottie Pippen
Oscar Robertson, David Robinson, Bill Russell
John Stockton, Dwayne Wade. Jerry West.
Here is my bottom 12 list, per the rules, these guys are on the Trash Heap:
36. Scottie Pippen -- never the #1 option on a great team, he failed in Chicago, Portland and Houston when asked to step up to the #1 spot. Great second banana with the Bulls.
35. Gary Payton - great player, great defender, just not as good as the rest of the list.
34. Reggie Miller -- extremely one-dimensional, no titles, played a long time, but not that awesome.
33. Patrick Ewing - very very good, just not an all-time top 24 player. The 1994 Knicks were better than the 1994 Rockets. He wasn't better than Hakeem.
32. John Havlicek -- consistent and played forever on winning teams. Stats don't match up to top 24 guys.
31. Dwyane Wade -- great player, durability a question mark, not someone who has put up huge overall numbers for his career given how long he has played.
30. Steve Nash -- cannot deny his 7 appearances on various all-NBA teams or his 2 MVPs, but is one of the worst defenders of all-time. There has to be some deduction for that.
29. Clyde Drexler -- extremely underrated. But he cannot make top 24 because, while he was great, his career accomplishments do not match up to those I have ranked above him.
28. Ray Allen -- at his best, he was a top 5 off guard all-time. Add in his success late in his career with championship teams and he is top 28, just not top 24.
27. Rick Barry -- A guy who no one but true basketball fans recalls. I probably rank him too high, but he was 9 times first team all-NBA or all-ABA and led his heavy underdog team to an NBA title. Led college, NBA and ABA in scoring.
26. Chris Paul -- there is probably no one in basketball history who is more underrated than Chris Paul. He is several times first-team all-NBA, his WS/48 number is ridiculous (top 3) and he just keeps going. Guys just don't regularly put up 14 assist/2 turnover games while being the best defensive PG in the league. It doesn't happen, except for CP3. Durability, shortness of career, and lack of playoff success keep him off the top 24 list........so far.
25. Kevin Durant -- do you realize that Kevin Durant has ALREADY been named 5X first-team all-NBA and won an MVP? Except for Steve Nash, no one else on the Trash Heap has won an MVP. Durant has become a ridiculous force in the NBA. He is kept out of the top 24 because he is young and now he is injured. If his career were to end today, he would not have the career that the top 24 guys have.
Next -- Part III, guys 13-24.
Tuesday, March 24, 2015
Stretch With Michelle Jenneke
I have literally watched this clip 5 times and I have never heard one word she says. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=344475529076498&fref=nf
Monday, March 23, 2015
Best 12, Next 12, Then Trash 12
Here are 36 all-time great NBA players in alphabetical order -- pick the all-time best 12, then separate out the next best 12, then throw the other 12 on the proverbial Trash Heap.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ray Allen, Charles Barkley
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Ray Allen, Charles Barkley
Rick Barry, Elgin Baylor, Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant, Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Drexler
Tim Duncan, Kevin Durant, Julius Erving
Patrick Ewing, Kevin Garnett, John Havlicek
LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan
Karl Malone, Moses Malone, George Mikan
Reggie Miller, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowtizki
Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Chris Paul
Gary Payton. Bob Petit, Scottie Pippen
Oscar Robertson, David Robinson, Bill Russell
John Stockton, Dwayne Wade. Jerry West.
You are not required to pick by position. You may have 12 centers or 12 guards if you would like. The question is, "Who, in your opinion, are the best 12 NBA/ABA players of all-time and then who are 13-24?" Then you toss the last 12 on the trash heap, regardless of how close you think the vote is between 24 & 25, etc.
You are not required to pick by position. You may have 12 centers or 12 guards if you would like. The question is, "Who, in your opinion, are the best 12 NBA/ABA players of all-time and then who are 13-24?" Then you toss the last 12 on the trash heap, regardless of how close you think the vote is between 24 & 25, etc.
I will post my choices in a week.
Thursday, March 19, 2015
Who is an NBA "Replacement Player" for Judging Value Over Replacement Player?
So, Karl Malone, Michael Jordan and LeBron James in their careers all tallied 100 or more as a "Value Over Replacement Player" -- leading one to wonder, who is this "replacement player" over whom they have more value.
So..........for guys who since the 1999-2000 season who have toiled at least 8,000 NBA minutes, we have the following guys who are pretty close to a "replacement player."
http://bkref.com/tiny/q4COl
Guards -- Devin Brown, Roger Mason, Gerald Green, JJ Barea, Gerald Henderson, Howard Eisley, Kendall Gill.
Forwards -- Kris Humphries, Stromile Swift, Jason Maxiell, Alan Henderson, Reggie Evans, Eric Williams, Andrea Bargnani
Centers -- Lorenzen Wright, Kwame Brown, Jason Collins, Jarron Collins, Chris Kaman.
Kaman is the greatest "replacement player" of the bunch because he has over 19,000 minutes and has almost exactly 0 VORP (it may be exactly 0, or it may be rounded).
If you go back to 1980, and you increase the minutes to 10,000 and require a tighter adherence to "very close to replacement", you get: http://bkref.com/tiny/Jqc7Z
James Edwards, Wayman Tisdale, Chris Gatling, Lorenzen Wright, Reggie Evans, Chris Kaman, J.R. Reid, Stromile Swift, Jason Collins, Jason Maxiell, Andrea Bargnani and Gerald Henderson.
So..........for guys who since the 1999-2000 season who have toiled at least 8,000 NBA minutes, we have the following guys who are pretty close to a "replacement player."
http://bkref.com/tiny/q4COl
Guards -- Devin Brown, Roger Mason, Gerald Green, JJ Barea, Gerald Henderson, Howard Eisley, Kendall Gill.
Forwards -- Kris Humphries, Stromile Swift, Jason Maxiell, Alan Henderson, Reggie Evans, Eric Williams, Andrea Bargnani
Centers -- Lorenzen Wright, Kwame Brown, Jason Collins, Jarron Collins, Chris Kaman.
Kaman is the greatest "replacement player" of the bunch because he has over 19,000 minutes and has almost exactly 0 VORP (it may be exactly 0, or it may be rounded).
If you go back to 1980, and you increase the minutes to 10,000 and require a tighter adherence to "very close to replacement", you get: http://bkref.com/tiny/Jqc7Z
James Edwards, Wayman Tisdale, Chris Gatling, Lorenzen Wright, Reggie Evans, Chris Kaman, J.R. Reid, Stromile Swift, Jason Collins, Jason Maxiell, Andrea Bargnani and Gerald Henderson.
Jeb Bush -- "Ummmmmm, that is some good Amnesty A-Brewin'!"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/columba-bush-family-story-116169_Page2.html
THIS is the guy that the crazy GOP is going to promote as their candidate? The guy with the one time illegal immigrant father-in-law and the wife who watches Spanish TV and whose eyes well up with tears when she hears the Mexican National Anthem?
THIS is the guy that the crazy GOP is going to promote as their candidate? The guy with the one time illegal immigrant father-in-law and the wife who watches Spanish TV and whose eyes well up with tears when she hears the Mexican National Anthem?
Tuesday, March 17, 2015
GOP House's Budget Resolution -- More of the Same
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/republican-budgets-whack-_n_6885122.html
Victims -- the poor, kids who want to go to college, ObamaCare, the elderly
Beneficiaries -- the military, the wealthy.
Is this really where we have come to? The Republican Party so blatantly saying a huge "fuck you" to anyone who isn't wealthy or making weapons?
If you are really concerned about the budget deficit (there is no reason to be concerned about the budget deficit, it is under 3% and is going down), then you do what any reasonable person would do - raise taxes and cut spending. You need to cut back on Social Security COLA and increase the level where the tax ends, and you need to cut Medicare reimbursement some. Everyone should have to pay some taxes, or at least not get money BACK from the government (Reagan's invention - the Earned Income Tax Credit).
So, if you have a $600 billion deficit, you raise taxes by $300B a year and you cut spending across the board by $300B. You are all set. Unfortunately, 33% of spending is off limits to the GOP and there is NEVER an appropriate time for a tax increase ("we are in a recession!" "We re doing so well!" "We are just starting to do better!" "We are just starting to do worse!")
Look - you want to fuck over the poor? Fine. But then lay some pain on the rich also. Do I want to pay more in taxes? Certainly not. But if we reach the conclusion that the budget deficit is SOOOOOOOOO awful (again, it is not) then we need to all do our part to get it to $0.
By the way, in 2001, Bill Clinton had left such a great economic situation for George W. Bush that we had a projected surplus. The federal government sent out checks to people as their share of the projected surplus!!! (Yes, this actually happened.). However, the deficit hawk GOP apparently did not exist back then because GWB signed TWO different tax cuts into law and drove the deficit skyward. Not one GOP leader said a thing.
The reason that the people in power do not cry about deficits is that deficit spending increases jobs and GDP. It makes you look like a better ruler. The reason people who are NOT in power cry about deficits is that the perceived "good times" reflect well on the people in power (i.e., not them). Reagan - huge deficit creator; George HW Bush -- tried to gear it back, generally did not succeed. GWB -- his VP noted, "Deficits don't matter." But, boy, the black guy gets into office with the worst economic meltdown since 1929 in full force? "Oh my God! He is deficit spending!!!"
Makes me sick.
Victims -- the poor, kids who want to go to college, ObamaCare, the elderly
Beneficiaries -- the military, the wealthy.
Is this really where we have come to? The Republican Party so blatantly saying a huge "fuck you" to anyone who isn't wealthy or making weapons?
If you are really concerned about the budget deficit (there is no reason to be concerned about the budget deficit, it is under 3% and is going down), then you do what any reasonable person would do - raise taxes and cut spending. You need to cut back on Social Security COLA and increase the level where the tax ends, and you need to cut Medicare reimbursement some. Everyone should have to pay some taxes, or at least not get money BACK from the government (Reagan's invention - the Earned Income Tax Credit).
So, if you have a $600 billion deficit, you raise taxes by $300B a year and you cut spending across the board by $300B. You are all set. Unfortunately, 33% of spending is off limits to the GOP and there is NEVER an appropriate time for a tax increase ("we are in a recession!" "We re doing so well!" "We are just starting to do better!" "We are just starting to do worse!")
Look - you want to fuck over the poor? Fine. But then lay some pain on the rich also. Do I want to pay more in taxes? Certainly not. But if we reach the conclusion that the budget deficit is SOOOOOOOOO awful (again, it is not) then we need to all do our part to get it to $0.
By the way, in 2001, Bill Clinton had left such a great economic situation for George W. Bush that we had a projected surplus. The federal government sent out checks to people as their share of the projected surplus!!! (Yes, this actually happened.). However, the deficit hawk GOP apparently did not exist back then because GWB signed TWO different tax cuts into law and drove the deficit skyward. Not one GOP leader said a thing.
The reason that the people in power do not cry about deficits is that deficit spending increases jobs and GDP. It makes you look like a better ruler. The reason people who are NOT in power cry about deficits is that the perceived "good times" reflect well on the people in power (i.e., not them). Reagan - huge deficit creator; George HW Bush -- tried to gear it back, generally did not succeed. GWB -- his VP noted, "Deficits don't matter." But, boy, the black guy gets into office with the worst economic meltdown since 1929 in full force? "Oh my God! He is deficit spending!!!"
Makes me sick.
Monday, March 16, 2015
The 15 Professional Wrestlers That I Enjoyed the Most
Look, I am not going to lie to you, since Pro Wrestling is fake, it is virtually impossible to rate wrestlers on any sort of meaningful scale. Some people, for example, rate Hulk Hogan VERY low as a wrestler because he wasn't a good technical wrestler. He was, of course, 6'6" and weighed 300+ pounds, and could slam a 500 pound man, but his overall ring repertoire was limited.
Other rate guys highly just for having good microphone skills, while other rate guys highly who could barely speak a lick (or used a manager to speak for them). It is all subjective. I will just give you my top 15:
Guys I just detest who I cannot put on the list -- Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit -- just don't like any of them, never cared for them as personalities or in the ring. Sorry. You guys are out.
I also left off the Steiner Brothers and the Road Warriors -- greatest tag teams of all-time, but we will focus on singles wrestlers.
1 Ric Flair - the best. Great in and out of the ring. Could wrestle for 60+ minutes until 10PM, bleed all over hell, cut a promo in the morning and then wrestle again the next night. Truly a great professional wrestler.
2 Curt Hennig -- Mr. Perfect. As good of a technical wrestler as there ever will be. The whole "Mr. Perfect" schitck is so ingrained in me that if I park my car well in the garage, I will say out loud, "Curt Hennig could not have done a better parking job." RIP.
3 The Rock -- Hard to believe he was ever the horrid babyface character of Rocky Maivia. Awesome legitimate athlete and just flat out hilarious. "What in the holy hell was that?"
4 Sting -- for 4 years in the NWA before he blew out his knee, he was probably the number 1 greatest wrestler of all-time from both a wrestling and personality standpoint. Similar to how some golf fans think of Tom Watson during his prime.
7 John Cena -- In a world where the straight out "babyface" is now frowned upon, Cena continues to pursue that position and hold up the WWE banner as the new Hulk Hogan. Ridiculously strong for a man his size.
8 Bret Hart -- Excellence of execution. My dream was always that he and Perfect would have 100 matches a year. Not much of a mic skills guy.
14 Randy Savage -- great wrestler. I didn't care for him as much as some people did. But there is no denying his greatness, so he squeaks in. RIP
Other rate guys highly just for having good microphone skills, while other rate guys highly who could barely speak a lick (or used a manager to speak for them). It is all subjective. I will just give you my top 15:
Guys I just detest who I cannot put on the list -- Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Chris Benoit -- just don't like any of them, never cared for them as personalities or in the ring. Sorry. You guys are out.
I also left off the Steiner Brothers and the Road Warriors -- greatest tag teams of all-time, but we will focus on singles wrestlers.
1 Ric Flair - the best. Great in and out of the ring. Could wrestle for 60+ minutes until 10PM, bleed all over hell, cut a promo in the morning and then wrestle again the next night. Truly a great professional wrestler.
2 Curt Hennig -- Mr. Perfect. As good of a technical wrestler as there ever will be. The whole "Mr. Perfect" schitck is so ingrained in me that if I park my car well in the garage, I will say out loud, "Curt Hennig could not have done a better parking job." RIP.
3 The Rock -- Hard to believe he was ever the horrid babyface character of Rocky Maivia. Awesome legitimate athlete and just flat out hilarious. "What in the holy hell was that?"
4 Sting -- for 4 years in the NWA before he blew out his knee, he was probably the number 1 greatest wrestler of all-time from both a wrestling and personality standpoint. Similar to how some golf fans think of Tom Watson during his prime.
5 Hulk Hogan -- The ultimate entertainer, huge man, extremely steroid pumped and powerful.
6 Andre The Giant -- "No way, Andre is gonna be there!?!?" Probably the greatest box office attraction in the world. RIP.
8 Bret Hart -- Excellence of execution. My dream was always that he and Perfect would have 100 matches a year. Not much of a mic skills guy.
9 Bill Goldberg -- the problem with pro wrestling is that you must have a competitive match for people to get their money's worth. Goldberg's first 6 months in the WCW, where he destroyed everyone in 45 seconds, were awesome. Then he had to get competitive. But that wasn't as good. This is one where personal preference plays a huge role in his high ranking.
10 Roddy Piper -- saw him in a "country whipping strap match" with Rick Rude in 1988. Jesus, he would suffer for his sport. Great heel. Maybe the best ever. Not a great pure wrestler.
11 The Undertaker -- unbelievably talented. Great schtick. Paul Bearer as your manager? Awesome.
12 Jimmy Snuka -- The Superfly from the top rope or the top of anything is such an iconic move that he must be on the list. When Piper cracked him in the head with a coconut, that was awesome TV.
13 Mick Foley/Cactus Jack -- when you saw him, you knew something unbelievably bizarre and twisted was about to occur. Absolutely no regard for his body, or his mental or emotional well being.
14 Randy Savage -- great wrestler. I didn't care for him as much as some people did. But there is no denying his greatness, so he squeaks in. RIP
15 Dusty Rhodes -- fat tub of goo, but an unbelievable personality, and he has to be on the list because his years worth of battles with Flair are legendary,
Friday, March 13, 2015
Some Fun With Historical Win Shares
7 Win Shares in a season is considered very good -- borderline all-star. Only one guy has ever achieved 25.0 or more WS in a season -- Kareem (Wilt had one rounded up from like 24.96). So, let's see who has done the best over the years at achieving various WS levels (I will list top 5 and ties for most seasons at that level).
7 WS, Most seasons: Kareem, Duncan, Karl, Stockton, tie between Barkley, KG, Moses, Reggie and Dirk
10 WS, most seasons -- Kareem, Karl, Wilt, Stockton, Duncan, Dirk
13WS, most seasons - Wilt, Karl, Jordan, Kareem, LeBron
16 WS, most seasons - Wilt, Jordan, Kareem, Oscar, LeBron, David
19 WS, most seasons -- Wilt, Michael, Kareem, Mikan, LeBron
22 WS, most seasons -- Kareem (2), Wilt (2), Mikan 1
25 WS, most seasons -- Kareem (1)
Kareem with Milwaukee in 1971-72 went 34-16-4 and shot 57%/ Kareem played over 44 mpg
Wilt with San Francisco in 1963-64 went 37-22-5 and shot 52%. Wilt played over 46 mpg.
7 WS, Most seasons: Kareem, Duncan, Karl, Stockton, tie between Barkley, KG, Moses, Reggie and Dirk
10 WS, most seasons -- Kareem, Karl, Wilt, Stockton, Duncan, Dirk
13WS, most seasons - Wilt, Karl, Jordan, Kareem, LeBron
16 WS, most seasons - Wilt, Jordan, Kareem, Oscar, LeBron, David
19 WS, most seasons -- Wilt, Michael, Kareem, Mikan, LeBron
22 WS, most seasons -- Kareem (2), Wilt (2), Mikan 1
25 WS, most seasons -- Kareem (1)
Kareem with Milwaukee in 1971-72 went 34-16-4 and shot 57%/ Kareem played over 44 mpg
Wilt with San Francisco in 1963-64 went 37-22-5 and shot 52%. Wilt played over 46 mpg.
Wednesday, March 11, 2015
As KG's Career Grinds to a Close -- His Current "Top 12" Placements
There are 12 guys on an NBA roster. So, if you are one of the top 12 players of all-time in any category, you have had a great career.
Kevin Garnett is limping toward the finish line, but his top 12s are impressive:
-- 12th in total baskets made (above Dan Issel, below John Havlicek)
8th in Win Shares -- above Oscar, below Dirk
-- 8th in Total Rebounds -- above Duncan, below Robert Parrish (Duncan will almost certainly pass KG)
7th in Defensive Win Shares -- above Elvin Hayes, below Karl Malone
-- 5th in Minutes Played -- above Wilt, below Elvin Hayes (good shot at 3rd -- needs only a few hundred minutes)
5th in Games Played -- soon to be above Kevin Willis, below Karl Malone
-- 4th in Career "Value Over Replacement Player" stat -- above Charles Barkley, below LeBron, Karl Malone and Michael Jordan. KG has 93.75 VORP, which, per basketball-reference.com, means you take that number and multiply by 2.7 to achieve "wins above a replacement player" -- KG with 253 extra wins for his team, over 12 a year, so if you would have been 30-52, you were 42-40. Impressive. From 1999-2000 through 2007-08, KG never fell below 5th in this stat and was #1 in 2002-03 through 2004-05.
3rd in Defensive Rebounds -- above Duncan, below Karl Malone and Artis Gilmore. (2nd tossing out ABA stats, needs 89 board to pass Malone on NBA list).
When you have 8 statistics where you are top 12 all-time, you are truly one of the all-time greats.
Kevin Garnett is limping toward the finish line, but his top 12s are impressive:
-- 12th in total baskets made (above Dan Issel, below John Havlicek)
8th in Win Shares -- above Oscar, below Dirk
-- 8th in Total Rebounds -- above Duncan, below Robert Parrish (Duncan will almost certainly pass KG)
7th in Defensive Win Shares -- above Elvin Hayes, below Karl Malone
-- 5th in Minutes Played -- above Wilt, below Elvin Hayes (good shot at 3rd -- needs only a few hundred minutes)
5th in Games Played -- soon to be above Kevin Willis, below Karl Malone
-- 4th in Career "Value Over Replacement Player" stat -- above Charles Barkley, below LeBron, Karl Malone and Michael Jordan. KG has 93.75 VORP, which, per basketball-reference.com, means you take that number and multiply by 2.7 to achieve "wins above a replacement player" -- KG with 253 extra wins for his team, over 12 a year, so if you would have been 30-52, you were 42-40. Impressive. From 1999-2000 through 2007-08, KG never fell below 5th in this stat and was #1 in 2002-03 through 2004-05.
3rd in Defensive Rebounds -- above Duncan, below Karl Malone and Artis Gilmore. (2nd tossing out ABA stats, needs 89 board to pass Malone on NBA list).
When you have 8 statistics where you are top 12 all-time, you are truly one of the all-time greats.
One of These NBA Players Is Being Touted As Having a Great Year, The Other is Regarded as Horribly Disappointing and Is Being Encouraged to Switch Teams Next Year
Player A:
1987 Minutes Played
20.3 PER
7.0 Win Shares, .168 WS/48
Offensive Rating v. Defensive Rating -- 111/103 (+8)
Value Over Replacement Player -- 2.2
Player B:
2168 MP
19.5 PER
8.0 Win Shares, .177 WS/48
Offensive Rating v. Defensive Rating -- 116/104 (+12)
Value Over Replacement Player -- 2.4
Which one is the "disappointing" player and who are the two guys?
HM
1987 Minutes Played
20.3 PER
7.0 Win Shares, .168 WS/48
Offensive Rating v. Defensive Rating -- 111/103 (+8)
Value Over Replacement Player -- 2.2
Player B:
2168 MP
19.5 PER
8.0 Win Shares, .177 WS/48
Offensive Rating v. Defensive Rating -- 116/104 (+12)
Value Over Replacement Player -- 2.4
Which one is the "disappointing" player and who are the two guys?
HM
Tuesday, March 10, 2015
Should Racist Oklahoma Frat Boys Be Expelled From a State School? No.
We have a thing in the United States that is called "freedom of speech". The Nazis are allowed to march through Skokie. You can wear a shirt that says "fuck the government." You can burn an American flag (if it is your flag and you burn it safely on your own property).
What did these OK idiots do? They sang a song about how their fraternity hates black people, wants to see one lynched, and will never allow one to be a member of the fraternity. WHUUUUUH!?!?! You mean to tell me that the fraternity system at the University of Oklahoma (the state that voted 60%+ against Obama despite being a very poor state - I believe every county in the state voted against Obama.....twice) isn't loaded with liberals who want to improve diversity? A state that votes 2/3 GOP isn't big in favor of inclusion of blacks into the already exclusive frat boy system? Let's see, my daddy spends every Republican party meeting talking about ways to suppress minority voting and ways to fuck over the 47%, but I am now an OU frat boy. I will be very open minded and not hate minorities at all.
Stunner.
But, that said, can a state run school expel kids for disclosing how much they hate black people? No. The cases are pretty uniform that a "speech code" of this sort is unenforceable as being against the First Amendment. The exception is when the racism becomes so prevalent that the ability of minority students to attend school and seek educational opportunities is significantly endangered. Do these morons endanger anyone's chance to get an education when they get drunk on a bus and sing racist songs? No. I mean, ask yourself this -- if someone just SAID "Hey, these assholes are singing racist songs" any action taken? Nope. But it was caught on video. Just like Ray Rice's case -- "I hit my fiancée and there she is laid out cold." 2 games, team supports him. Video goes public -- indefinite suspension, may never play again. Why? Because people are chicken shit and fold to public pressure.
Now, that said, there are times when you take a stand knowing it won't stick and hoping the perpetrator will just accept his punishment. Person you retain an independent contractor who does his job well, but then you learn he sells alcohol to minors from your driveway. Maybe you don't pay him. If he hires an attorney, maybe you eventually have to pay him, but do you want to be the person known for paying the guy who sells liquor to kids? Probably not. Let him sue you. So OU kicks out a couple ring leaders - probably not legal. But they might go somewhere else. They might just fade into the woodwork. They might not have enough time or money to spend suing you. And you can tell all of your African-American athletes (who you need to keep up your school's name in the nation at large) that you did something. If it gets overturned? Well, effing courts - what could I do?
On frats in general -- frats are generally designed as a means of building an "exclusive" club feel which discourages people without money or connections from joining. It is generally a system that encourages underage drinking and illegal drug use. I'd say it encourages sex, but the guys I know who were in frats - I don't see them getting a whole lot under any circumstances. So, yeah, not a big fan of frats.
On the South -- I lived three years in the South. It is pretty. It is warm. You can play sports outside most of the year. The general attitude of whites in the South toward blacks is almost unchanged since Brown v. Board was decided in 1954. In 1971, the Supreme Court finally had to tell the South that integrating schools "with all deliberate speed" meant less than 17 years. In 1986-89, blacks shopped in my neighborhood at a certain time (late at night) they went to the movies at a certain time, they went to the library at a certain time. People regularly came up to me and used the N word. My sister applied for a job with a black supervisor who said, "I think what you will learn down here is that we keep our niggers in place better than you Yankees." Jesus. Really? I know folks who make $45,000 a year in the South and send their 4 kids to private school because the public schools are "not where white kids go." That is the South.
So, you have a heavy Republican state with a college frat that is located in the South. Do you expect that these people will have a liberal and diverse view of the world? I do not. Yet, we need to protect them. Why? Because there is no end to the restriction of free speech. If you can keep them from being racist, can you keep them from being anti-Obama or pro-GOP? I mean, 15-25% of the hatred of Obama is purely because he is black. So, if a student cannot identify a good policy reason for hating Obama -- kicked out of school? Similarly, in the next 12 months we will almost certainly have nationwide gay marriage. Can someone say that being gay is a sin and they oppose the right to marry? Isn't that hate speech? You hate them for being gay? Flip side -- a young gay black man says, "You motherfucker Republicans should all burn in hell for opposing gay marriage!" Is he anti-white? Anti-religion? Does he serve at the pleasure of whomever decides who the college "wants" to hear and doesn't want to hear?
Let the bigots be bigots. Let them expose themselves. Let it be known that the University of Oklahoma is their headquarters. People who want to join them will come down/over. People who don't, won't.. If the University cannot recruit black football player and basketball players, something will be done. After all, money talks, and it never gets silenced.
What did these OK idiots do? They sang a song about how their fraternity hates black people, wants to see one lynched, and will never allow one to be a member of the fraternity. WHUUUUUH!?!?! You mean to tell me that the fraternity system at the University of Oklahoma (the state that voted 60%+ against Obama despite being a very poor state - I believe every county in the state voted against Obama.....twice) isn't loaded with liberals who want to improve diversity? A state that votes 2/3 GOP isn't big in favor of inclusion of blacks into the already exclusive frat boy system? Let's see, my daddy spends every Republican party meeting talking about ways to suppress minority voting and ways to fuck over the 47%, but I am now an OU frat boy. I will be very open minded and not hate minorities at all.
Stunner.
But, that said, can a state run school expel kids for disclosing how much they hate black people? No. The cases are pretty uniform that a "speech code" of this sort is unenforceable as being against the First Amendment. The exception is when the racism becomes so prevalent that the ability of minority students to attend school and seek educational opportunities is significantly endangered. Do these morons endanger anyone's chance to get an education when they get drunk on a bus and sing racist songs? No. I mean, ask yourself this -- if someone just SAID "Hey, these assholes are singing racist songs" any action taken? Nope. But it was caught on video. Just like Ray Rice's case -- "I hit my fiancée and there she is laid out cold." 2 games, team supports him. Video goes public -- indefinite suspension, may never play again. Why? Because people are chicken shit and fold to public pressure.
Now, that said, there are times when you take a stand knowing it won't stick and hoping the perpetrator will just accept his punishment. Person you retain an independent contractor who does his job well, but then you learn he sells alcohol to minors from your driveway. Maybe you don't pay him. If he hires an attorney, maybe you eventually have to pay him, but do you want to be the person known for paying the guy who sells liquor to kids? Probably not. Let him sue you. So OU kicks out a couple ring leaders - probably not legal. But they might go somewhere else. They might just fade into the woodwork. They might not have enough time or money to spend suing you. And you can tell all of your African-American athletes (who you need to keep up your school's name in the nation at large) that you did something. If it gets overturned? Well, effing courts - what could I do?
On frats in general -- frats are generally designed as a means of building an "exclusive" club feel which discourages people without money or connections from joining. It is generally a system that encourages underage drinking and illegal drug use. I'd say it encourages sex, but the guys I know who were in frats - I don't see them getting a whole lot under any circumstances. So, yeah, not a big fan of frats.
On the South -- I lived three years in the South. It is pretty. It is warm. You can play sports outside most of the year. The general attitude of whites in the South toward blacks is almost unchanged since Brown v. Board was decided in 1954. In 1971, the Supreme Court finally had to tell the South that integrating schools "with all deliberate speed" meant less than 17 years. In 1986-89, blacks shopped in my neighborhood at a certain time (late at night) they went to the movies at a certain time, they went to the library at a certain time. People regularly came up to me and used the N word. My sister applied for a job with a black supervisor who said, "I think what you will learn down here is that we keep our niggers in place better than you Yankees." Jesus. Really? I know folks who make $45,000 a year in the South and send their 4 kids to private school because the public schools are "not where white kids go." That is the South.
So, you have a heavy Republican state with a college frat that is located in the South. Do you expect that these people will have a liberal and diverse view of the world? I do not. Yet, we need to protect them. Why? Because there is no end to the restriction of free speech. If you can keep them from being racist, can you keep them from being anti-Obama or pro-GOP? I mean, 15-25% of the hatred of Obama is purely because he is black. So, if a student cannot identify a good policy reason for hating Obama -- kicked out of school? Similarly, in the next 12 months we will almost certainly have nationwide gay marriage. Can someone say that being gay is a sin and they oppose the right to marry? Isn't that hate speech? You hate them for being gay? Flip side -- a young gay black man says, "You motherfucker Republicans should all burn in hell for opposing gay marriage!" Is he anti-white? Anti-religion? Does he serve at the pleasure of whomever decides who the college "wants" to hear and doesn't want to hear?
Let the bigots be bigots. Let them expose themselves. Let it be known that the University of Oklahoma is their headquarters. People who want to join them will come down/over. People who don't, won't.. If the University cannot recruit black football player and basketball players, something will be done. After all, money talks, and it never gets silenced.
Monday, March 09, 2015
Good Bye Sam Simon -- Dead of Colon Cancer at Age 59
https://gma.yahoo.com/sam-simon-simpsons-co-creator-dead-59-191440389--abc-news-celebrities.html
Anyone who helped to bring the world "The Simpsons" should be celebrated. Huge talent, loved to play poker. At the end he was rapidly giving away his fortune.
He was married to a YOUNG Jennifer Tilly, so, yeah, while he only alive 59 years, he had a great life. RIP.
Some pics of a young Jennifer Tilly from "Let It Ride" (when she was married to Simon) and then a later career pic after she got a little enhancement.
Anyone who helped to bring the world "The Simpsons" should be celebrated. Huge talent, loved to play poker. At the end he was rapidly giving away his fortune.
He was married to a YOUNG Jennifer Tilly, so, yeah, while he only alive 59 years, he had a great life. RIP.
Some pics of a young Jennifer Tilly from "Let It Ride" (when she was married to Simon) and then a later career pic after she got a little enhancement.
Friday, March 06, 2015
Wednesday, February 25, 2015
Why It Makes No Sense to "Normalize" Wilt Chamberlain's Statistics
There is a growing desire amongst basketball stat folks to say that Wilt wasn't really that great of a player because: 1) he played 48 minutes a game versus a normal starter's minutes of around 36; and 2) teams played at a far higher pace in the 1960s than they do today.
What these well-intentioned folks seem to miss is that people during Wilt's day were playing under the same rules and at the same pace of play he was playing at. They had the same opportunities to play all 48 minutes, if they could hack it. There was nothing peculiar about Wilt's situation that permitted him to sleep more or travel less or rest in practice more. Wilt was just able to play 48 MPG without fouling out or diminishing his skills substantially on a per-minute basis.
If the "Wilt wasn't that good" argument were correct, then we would assume that Wilt's scoring marks and rebounding marks would be roughly equivalent to others of his day or perhaps 10-15% higher than, say, the 5th place guy in the statistical categories. That just simply did not happen.
Wilt's stats were routinely 30-50% higher than the 5th place finisher. The only players who challenged Wilt for supremacy as a player were Russell and Oscar. Neither of these guys put up the rebounding AND scoring numbers that Wilt did. Russell was always fighting Wilt for the rebounding title, but Russell never scored 20 a game (those who seek to normalize Wilt's stats probably need to state how they feel about Bill Russell claiming to the #1 player of all time and scoring an adjusted, what? 10 ppg? Imagine a player in today's league claiming #1 status and performing at 2004 Ben Wallace levels).
And the final thing to consider is this -- when you are looking for outrageous statistical achievements in scoring and rebounding (and even triple doubles, where Wilt is the only guy to go 20-20-20) who do you turn to? Wilt. If Wilt really wasn't that great, then why wouldn't there be at least 20-30 Wilt-like efforts sprinkled into the mix? I saw a stat the other day that said "there have been 58 games of at least 39--29 in NBA history -- Wilt has 53." Allen Iverson played a ton of minutes. Paul Silas played LeBron one night in Minneapolis after LeBron literally lost consciousness on the sideline and had to be helped back to the locker room for an IV. There have been guys played to death by their coaches. Where are the 39-29 performances or the 20-20-20 performances? Where are the instances of guys going for 45+ for 20 consecutive games? How about 35+? Wilt averaged 50 a game. Jordan, I am pretty sure, is second at 37 a game. There was never a better player than Jordan, but he couldn't go 48 minutes a night and get 50 a night even though the pace of play in 1987 was pretty fast.
Anyway, hoping that when people run down Wilt that someone might do a Google search and find this item and re-think their assessment.
What these well-intentioned folks seem to miss is that people during Wilt's day were playing under the same rules and at the same pace of play he was playing at. They had the same opportunities to play all 48 minutes, if they could hack it. There was nothing peculiar about Wilt's situation that permitted him to sleep more or travel less or rest in practice more. Wilt was just able to play 48 MPG without fouling out or diminishing his skills substantially on a per-minute basis.
If the "Wilt wasn't that good" argument were correct, then we would assume that Wilt's scoring marks and rebounding marks would be roughly equivalent to others of his day or perhaps 10-15% higher than, say, the 5th place guy in the statistical categories. That just simply did not happen.
Wilt's stats were routinely 30-50% higher than the 5th place finisher. The only players who challenged Wilt for supremacy as a player were Russell and Oscar. Neither of these guys put up the rebounding AND scoring numbers that Wilt did. Russell was always fighting Wilt for the rebounding title, but Russell never scored 20 a game (those who seek to normalize Wilt's stats probably need to state how they feel about Bill Russell claiming to the #1 player of all time and scoring an adjusted, what? 10 ppg? Imagine a player in today's league claiming #1 status and performing at 2004 Ben Wallace levels).
And the final thing to consider is this -- when you are looking for outrageous statistical achievements in scoring and rebounding (and even triple doubles, where Wilt is the only guy to go 20-20-20) who do you turn to? Wilt. If Wilt really wasn't that great, then why wouldn't there be at least 20-30 Wilt-like efforts sprinkled into the mix? I saw a stat the other day that said "there have been 58 games of at least 39--29 in NBA history -- Wilt has 53." Allen Iverson played a ton of minutes. Paul Silas played LeBron one night in Minneapolis after LeBron literally lost consciousness on the sideline and had to be helped back to the locker room for an IV. There have been guys played to death by their coaches. Where are the 39-29 performances or the 20-20-20 performances? Where are the instances of guys going for 45+ for 20 consecutive games? How about 35+? Wilt averaged 50 a game. Jordan, I am pretty sure, is second at 37 a game. There was never a better player than Jordan, but he couldn't go 48 minutes a night and get 50 a night even though the pace of play in 1987 was pretty fast.
Anyway, hoping that when people run down Wilt that someone might do a Google search and find this item and re-think their assessment.
Tuesday, February 24, 2015
Jodi Arias -- Doesn't Deserve the Death Penalty
http://news.yahoo.com/lawyers-jodi-arias-trial-last-bids-life-death-141302508.html
It is a close call, I will concede. But this is obviously a very troubled and disturbed woman who snapped due to the mistreatment by her sort of boyfriend.
While certainly no one deserves to die, the victim here was not altogether blameless in his death. He used this girl for sex and led her along with the belief that he was somewhat serious about her. In reality, she was never a serious candidate for a serious life long relationship with the guy. She was, for lack of a better analogy, a substitute for Kleenex or a towel or an old shirt or an old sock. He used her to get off. When there is a relationship between two parties, there is almost always going to be an imbalance in power, but you probably ought not to mislead a woman with respect to your intentions when she is so crazy that she doesn't mind dressing up in little boys' underwear and having you sodomize her. I mean, geez, you have some psycho-sexual issues issues and you are taking them out on this girl....and she allows you to do so, with the false hope that by doing so she will get you to love and marry her.
Can you really be all that surprised when one day she completely loses her mind and decides you have effed with her (and effed her) long enough?
Look, I will concede that I have had a couple of unbalanced relationships in my life where I was more like the Travis Alexander side of the relationship. Both relationships were with extremely intelligent women. Extremely intelligent. One was under 20 and in need of attention, the other was borderline insane. Had the first one decided one day to wake up and kill me, I would have been disappointed, but I cannot say I wouldn't have slightly deserved it. The second one? She on several occasions told me that she would stab me, she told me her dad would have me killed, she told me that I better watch myself..... In light of the fact that I knew her imbalance and still conducted myself as I did, had she killed me, should she go to prison forever? Sure. Would my ghost wander the earth if she didn't get the death penalty? No. (That said, I will quickly note that I have seen neither person for 23+ years so any desire to kill me would NOW be completely unjustified - you have had a 23+ year cooling off period).
If I were not on the jury, I would not vote to kill Jodi Arias.
It is a close call, I will concede. But this is obviously a very troubled and disturbed woman who snapped due to the mistreatment by her sort of boyfriend.
While certainly no one deserves to die, the victim here was not altogether blameless in his death. He used this girl for sex and led her along with the belief that he was somewhat serious about her. In reality, she was never a serious candidate for a serious life long relationship with the guy. She was, for lack of a better analogy, a substitute for Kleenex or a towel or an old shirt or an old sock. He used her to get off. When there is a relationship between two parties, there is almost always going to be an imbalance in power, but you probably ought not to mislead a woman with respect to your intentions when she is so crazy that she doesn't mind dressing up in little boys' underwear and having you sodomize her. I mean, geez, you have some psycho-sexual issues issues and you are taking them out on this girl....and she allows you to do so, with the false hope that by doing so she will get you to love and marry her.
Can you really be all that surprised when one day she completely loses her mind and decides you have effed with her (and effed her) long enough?
Look, I will concede that I have had a couple of unbalanced relationships in my life where I was more like the Travis Alexander side of the relationship. Both relationships were with extremely intelligent women. Extremely intelligent. One was under 20 and in need of attention, the other was borderline insane. Had the first one decided one day to wake up and kill me, I would have been disappointed, but I cannot say I wouldn't have slightly deserved it. The second one? She on several occasions told me that she would stab me, she told me her dad would have me killed, she told me that I better watch myself..... In light of the fact that I knew her imbalance and still conducted myself as I did, had she killed me, should she go to prison forever? Sure. Would my ghost wander the earth if she didn't get the death penalty? No. (That said, I will quickly note that I have seen neither person for 23+ years so any desire to kill me would NOW be completely unjustified - you have had a 23+ year cooling off period).
If I were not on the jury, I would not vote to kill Jodi Arias.
New "Dancing With the Stars" Contestant Charlotte McKinney's Twitter Pics
https://twitter.com/Char_mck/media
Do yourself a favor -- take some time to run through the pics. Reported measurements: 32D-24-34.
Do yourself a favor -- take some time to run through the pics. Reported measurements: 32D-24-34.
Monday, February 23, 2015
Guys Who Played At a High Level for the Longest Time
With KG's return to Minneapolis set for Wednesday, let's review the list of guys who played at a 10+ Win Share level for the most seasons. KG no longer plays at that level, but he is on the list in a tie for 18th place. See below for the name, dates, and (at the end) number of seasons a guy managed to get 10+ Win Shares (led by Kareem's 16 seasons). The "one of this guys is not like the other" guy would be Reggie Miller.....certainly not a top 25 (or probably not a top 50) player, but he is tied for 7th place on this list. (For you younger folks, Bob Petit was ten times first-team All-NBA.).
| 1 | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* | 1970 | 1986 | TOT | NBA | 16 |
| 2 | Karl Malone* | 1988 | 2003 | UTA | NBA | 14 |
| 3 | Wilt Chamberlain* | 1960 | 1973 | TOT | NBA | 13 |
| 4 | John Stockton* | 1988 | 2002 | UTA | NBA | 13 |
| 5 | Tim Duncan | 1998 | 2010 | SAS | NBA | 12 |
| 6 | Dirk Nowitzki | 2001 | 2014 | DAL | NBA | 12 |
| 7 | Kobe Bryant | 2000 | 2013 | LAL | NBA | 11 |
| 8 | Magic Johnson* | 1980 | 1991 | LAL | NBA | 11 |
| 9 | Michael Jordan* | 1985 | 1998 | CHI | NBA | 11 |
| 10 | Reggie Miller* | 1990 | 2001 | IND | NBA | 11 |
| 11 | Oscar Robertson* | 1961 | 1971 | TOT | NBA | 11 |
| 12 | David Robinson* | 1990 | 2002 | SAS | NBA | 11 |
| 13 | Bill Russell* | 1958 | 1969 | BOS | NBA | 11 |
| 14 | Charles Barkley* | 1986 | 1996 | TOT | NBA | 10 |
| 15 | LeBron James | 2005 | 2014 | TOT | NBA | 10 |
| 16 | Bob Pettit* | 1955 | 1964 | TOT | NBA | 10 |
| 17 | Jerry West* | 1962 | 1973 | LAL | NBA | 10 |
| 18 | Larry Bird* | 1980 | 1988 | BOS | NBA | 9 |
| 19 | Kevin Garnett | 2000 | 2008 | TOT | NBA | 9 |
| 20 | Shaquille O'Neal | 1993 | 2005 | TOT | NBA | 9 |
Friday, February 20, 2015
Full List of NBA Trade Deadline Deals 2015
Goran Dragic to the Miami Heat from the Denver Nuggets in a three-team deal:
- Miami gets: Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic
- Phoenix gets: Â Danny Granger, Justin Hamilton, John Salmons, two 1st-round picks
- New Orleans gets: Norris Cole (per ESPN), Shawne Williams (per Woj)
Winner -- Miami, if it can re-sign Dragic, has gone from one of the worst PG situations in the league to top 10. I don't know how Wade will adapt to a good PG, but Miami at least didn't stand pat and just let the roster die out.
Miami B+
Phoenix -- got two #1s for a guy who wasn't going to stay, so they also did well, but their decision to sign a third PG in the off season (Isaiah Thomas, see below) caused all of this unnecessary drama in the first place -- so, B
New Orleans -- I guess they figured that since Jrue Holiday is completely unable to get healthy that they needed someone. Cole sucks -- yet another guy who rode LeBron James to an OK career before being exposed. C minus.
Enes Kanter to the Oklahoma City Thunder, Reggie Jackson to the Detroit Pistons in a three-team deal:
- Oklahoma City gets: Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, D.J. Augustin, Steve Novak
- Utah gets: Kendrick Perkins, Grant Jerrett, protected future Oklahoma City 1st-round pick, Detroit 2nd-round pick, rights to Tibor Pleiss (per ESPN)
- Detroit gets: Reggie Jackson
Winner -- Detroit. I think Reggie Jackson can be a really good player, and they gave up bench shit that no one should ever want. Grade - B plus
OKC -- I don't see Kanter as a big upgrade from Stephen Adams. But Adams has a broken hand, so the Thunder are desperate. Adams will eventually return, but the difference between Kanter and Adams is not noticeable against better opponents. So they basically got a good 24 minute center for a terrible player (Perkins) and a guy I like (Jackson), oh, and a low #1 -- so, C minus.
Utah -- no fucking idea what they are doing here. Take a guy who plays for you and get one of the worst players in the league (Perkins), a low #1, and.......Tibor Pleiss??? Maybe Pleiss is the new Marc Gasol, but if not then the Jazz gets an F.
The Suns, Sixers, Bucks, and Celtics engage in a massive four-team trade:
- Phoenix gets: Brandon Knight, Marcus Thornton, Cleveland's 2016 1st-round pick (per Woj)
- Philadelphia gets: Los Angeles Lakers 2015 1st-round pick (top-five protected)
- Milwaukee gets: Michael Carter-Williams, Miles Plumlee, Tyler Ennis
- Boston gets: Isaiah Thomas
Winner -- Phoenix -- they get the deal's best player (Knight) and a #1 and give up a guy they should have never signed in Thomas (good player, but effed up their chemistry really badly). Grade A minus
Philly - got what could be a really high #1....or a really awful 1. Grade B
Milwaukee - Why would you get Ennis AND MCW? MCW is only effective at 35+ MPG. High usage, low percentage shooter. Plumlee was great for one year in Phoenix, then they dump him? Bucks Grade -- B minus
Boston -- Thomas is a good player. No one wants Marcus Thornton. He defines "one-dimensional". Grade C
Arron Afflalo to the Portland Trail Blazers from the Denver Nuggets:
- Portland gets: Arron Afflalo, Alonzo Gee
- Denver gets: Will Barton, Victor Claver, Thomas Robinson, lottery-protected 2016 1st-round pick
Winner -- none. Denver gets a low #1, Portland gets a couple guys who won't make them appreciably better. Both teams get a C.
- Minnesota gets: Kevin Garnett
- Brooklyn gets: Thaddeus Young
Wolves -- Odd, odd deal. A desperate effort for a veteran leader and a name to sell tickets. Management will always take the easy path, never acknowledging that the way to draw a crowd is to become a consistent winner. Grade C minus (Young is so awful defensively, he really isn't a guy you can play 24+ minutes, and he was going to leave anyway).
- Detroit gets: Tayshaun Prince
- Boston gets: Jonas Jerebko, Gigi Datome
Um, no winner here. Old washed up guy for a young never-will-be guy. Both teams get a D.
JaVale McGee to the Philadelphia 76ers from the Denver Nuggets:
- Philadelphia gets: JaVale McGee, Oklahoma City Thunder's 2015 1st-round pick (top-18 protected), Chu Chu Maduabum
- Denver gets: Cenk Akyol
Denver got itself into a Wolvesian situation where it was paying a #1 to dump a guy (ala Wes Johnson to Phoenix). How do you ever become that desperate? Cut the frigging guy (ala Josh Smith). Grade D.
- Houston gets: K.J. McDaniels
- Philadelphia gets: Isaiah Canaan, 2nd-round pick
Philly -- they put together an awful, awful team and guys like McDaniels refuse to quit and play hard enough to win way more games than I predicted (I said 6-76). The reward? Your walking papers....for nothing. If you didn't want the guy, just let him ride out the season and leave with a good feeling. Grade F
- Washington gets: Ramon Sessions
- Sacramento gets: Andre Miller
Wiz -- got Miller off their asses. Sessions sucks. Grade D. (Hoping for addition by subtraction).
Pablo Prigioni to the Houston Rockets from the New York Knicks:
- Rockets get: Pablo Prigioni
- Knicks get: Alexey Shved, two 2nd-round picks
Knicks -- Phil loves big point guards who can defend and stand around and hit an open three (Ron Harper, Brian Shaw). But acquiring Shved is like saying "I like tall divas who dress up a lot and wear a lot of makeup" and getting RuPaul. Technically meets the criteria, but......
Wednesday, February 18, 2015
Your 11 Best Smaller Guys Who Almost Never Shot 3 Pointers
http://bkref.com/tiny/L34Q1 How about some Elton Brand!!!
| 1 | Adrian Dantley* | 1980 | 1987 | TOT | NBA | 6 |
| 2 | Elton Brand | 2002 | 2007 | LAC | NBA | 4 |
| 3 | Julius Erving* | 1980 | 1983 | PHI | NBA | 4 |
| 4 | Marques Johnson | 1980 | 1983 | MIL | NBA | 3 |
| 5 | Anthony Mason | 1996 | 2001 | TOT | NBA | 3 |
| 6 | Sidney Moncrief | 1982 | 1984 | MIL | NBA | 3 |
| 7 | Cedric Maxwell | 1980 | 1981 | BOS | NBA | 2 |
| 8 | Maurice Cheeks | 1986 | 1986 | PHI | NBA | 1 |
| 9 | Alex English* | 1983 | 1983 | DEN | NBA | 1 |
| 10 | Bernard King* | 1984 | 1984 | NYK | NBA | 1 |
| 11 | Calvin Natt | 1985 | 1985 | DEN | NBA | 1 |
Tuesday, February 10, 2015
Dirk Passes KG For 7th On the Career Win Shares List
Barring some horrible injury to Dirk or the invention of a new steroid for KG, I think Dirk has passed him for good.
In other developments, Duncan slowly inching his way toward becoming the 6th guy with 200 career Win Shares. LeBron has passed Reggie Miller and assuming he can get 5 WS the rest of the way, he will pass Barkley and David Robinson this year and sit just outside the top 10 at age 31. Below Magic sits Paul Pierce, who seemingly will play forever. He is 8 short of Magic right now, so he will need a couple good years or three OK years to reach the top 20 (again, NBA only -- Dr. J, and Gilmore rise up the list if you include ABA WS).
Coming on hard -- Chris Paul shows no signs of slowing down and at his current pace of 15 a year he could be top 22 by 2016.. Durant is trying to shake off some early career woes and has yet to reach 100. Pau Gasol will soon pass Buck Williams for 40th place.
Your top 20 Win Shares players (NBA stats only) as of the morning of February 10, 2015:
In other developments, Duncan slowly inching his way toward becoming the 6th guy with 200 career Win Shares. LeBron has passed Reggie Miller and assuming he can get 5 WS the rest of the way, he will pass Barkley and David Robinson this year and sit just outside the top 10 at age 31. Below Magic sits Paul Pierce, who seemingly will play forever. He is 8 short of Magic right now, so he will need a couple good years or three OK years to reach the top 20 (again, NBA only -- Dr. J, and Gilmore rise up the list if you include ABA WS).
Coming on hard -- Chris Paul shows no signs of slowing down and at his current pace of 15 a year he could be top 22 by 2016.. Durant is trying to shake off some early career woes and has yet to reach 100. Pau Gasol will soon pass Buck Williams for 40th place.
Your top 20 Win Shares players (NBA stats only) as of the morning of February 10, 2015:
| 1. | Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* | 273.41 |
| 2. | Wilt Chamberlain* | 247.26 |
| 3. | Karl Malone* | 234.63 |
| 4. | Michael Jordan* | 214.02 |
| 5. | John Stockton* | 207.70 |
| 6. | Tim Duncan | 196.78 |
| 7. | Dirk Nowitzki | 190.07 |
| 8. | Kevin Garnett | 190.04 |
| 9. | Oscar Robertson* | 189.21 |
| 10. | Shaquille O'Neal | 181.71 |
| 11. | David Robinson* | 178.67 |
| 12. | Charles Barkley* | 177.21 |
| 13. | LeBron James | 174.84 |
| 14. | Reggie Miller* | 174.40 |
| 15. | Kobe Bryant | 173.14 |
| 16. | Moses Malone* | 167.07 |
| 17. | Bill Russell* | 163.51 |
| 18. | Hakeem Olajuwon* | 162.77 |
| 19. | Jerry West* | 162.58 |
| 20. | Magic Johnson* | 155.79 |
Thursday, February 05, 2015
Brian Williams of NBC News -- Liar
http://news.yahoo.com/brian-williams-iraq-war-story-twitter-remembers-135917143.html
Good lord. How do you lie about being on a chopper hit by an RPG? "I misremembered."
Example from My Past -- "You know, Sunday, I was in Phoenix and I had sex all night with Katy Perry after she got her newest tattoo."
OK, well, I did watch her on TV and thought she was hot, and I saw a picture of her new tattoo. Sorry. Misremembered.
Good lord. How do you lie about being on a chopper hit by an RPG? "I misremembered."
Example from My Past -- "You know, Sunday, I was in Phoenix and I had sex all night with Katy Perry after she got her newest tattoo."
OK, well, I did watch her on TV and thought she was hot, and I saw a picture of her new tattoo. Sorry. Misremembered.
Tuesday, February 03, 2015
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